. >> making government smaller, don't build these massive deficits that pass debt onto our kids. rebuild the foundation of america's strength with great homes, great schools, with entrepreneurship and innovation. >> there's no bigger purpose right now than making sure that if people work hard in this country, they can get ahead. that's the central american idea. that's how we sent a man to the moon, because there was an economy that worked for everybody and that allowed us to do that. >> great homes. >> maybe we can build a bunch of homes with elevators -- >> mcmansions. let me ask you, bobby shrum, what would you -- i'd ask him what government agencies or departments -- you say you're going to make it smaller -- would you get rid of? >> that's tough. he's there and got a pretty honed answer that appeals at a kind of general level to people's anti-government impulse but we know when you look at the polls that if you ask them about medicare, the department of education, social security, environmental protection -- >> energy. >> there's huge support for all of these. i suspect that